Kristian Ranta On Raising $50 Million To Provide Online Access To Therapy And Holistic Mental Healthcare Services Via A Smartphone App

When Kristian Ranta reflects on his entrepreneurial journey, it’s a story filled with grit, resilience, and a profound sense of purpose. From his roots in Finland to founding ventures that span continents, Kristian’s experiences offer invaluable lessons for aspiring founders.

His latest venture, Meru Health, has attracted funding from top-tier investors like Bold Capital Partners, Foundry Group, Freestyle VC, and FMZ Ventures.

In this episode, you will learn:

• Facing a critical moment at Mendor, Kristian secured life-saving funding with just two weeks of runway left, demonstrating the power of swift action and determination.
• Kristian emphasizes the importance of intentionally designing a company culture as a “beacon” to attract the right employees, customers, and partners.
• Kristian’s personal loss inspired Meru Health’s holistic mental health care approach, integrating lifestyle factors like diet, sleep, and mindfulness with conventional treatments.
• Meru Health applied to Y Combinator six times before being accepted, showcasing the value of persistence and incremental progress.
• The telehealth boom during the pandemic was a pivotal moment for Meru Health, highlighting the importance of aligning innovation with market trends.
• Relocating to Silicon Valley enabled Meru Health to tap into the world’s largest healthcare market and access critical partnerships with major insurers.
• Kristian advocates balancing high performance with kindness, creating an ambitious yet supportive work environment that attracts top talent.

 

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About Kristian Ranta:

Kristian Ranta is the CEO & Founder of Meru Health, which is building a new standard of mental health care. Meru Health was accepted to the prestigious Y Combinator accelerator in 2018.

Meru Health operates nationally and is currently collaborating with Cigna, Aetna, Humana, Stanford University, Stanford Health Care, and other health plans as well as large employers.

Kristian has been in healthcare for the past 15 years in the US, Europe, and Asia. In 2005, he founded his first company Mendor which developed a novel glucose monitor for Type 1 diabetes.

In 2014, Mendor was awarded the Deloitte Rising Stars 1st place in Finland, and in 2015, Mendor’s glucose monitoring business was sold to a Korean public company i-Sens.

While Kristian was building Mendor, he lost a family member to suicide because of his depression. This eventually led to the founding of Meru Health in 2016.

Connect with Kristian Ranta:

• LinkedIn
• TheOrg
• Crunchbase
• Tracxn

Read the Full Transcription of the Interview:

Alejandro Cremades: All right. Hello, everyone, and welcome to The Deal Maker Show. So today we have an amazing guest, you know another founder. you know and And again, we’re going to be talking about all the good stuff that I would like to hear. I mean, in this case, a proven founder, a founder that has been building, scaling, financing, exiting companies you know for quite a bit. ah And he is right now on on a rocket ship with a with his latest company, which is definitely you know a topic that is saying very much in mind, and especially very much in mind of founders, because unfortunately, founder founder journey ah the founder journey really involves depression, you know and ah mental health is it needs to be top of mind. So again, a lot of stuff that we’re going to be covering, like talking about how they came from Finland to the US, made it happen, getting into YC, raising money, and a bunch of other stuff that I think is going to be quite inspiring. So without further ado, let’s welcome our guest today, Christian Ranta. Welcome to the show.

Kristian Ranta: Hey Alejandro, thanks so much. Appreciate it. Thanks for having me.

Alejandro Cremades: So originally from Finland. So give us a walk through memory lane. How was life growing up for you?

Kristian Ranta: Yeah, yeah, thanks. Yeah, so I, you know, I was kind of born in Finland in Helsinki, kind of a nice suburb back there, and went to school eventually, I was kind of a nerd, nerdy kiddo. So studied computer science and information systems as my undergrad and graduate studies. And and yeah, then, you know, just became a huge fan of, ah you know, several entrepreneurs that I kind of saw in my circles, my mom and dad also both had to be an entrepreneurs or were entrepreneurs as part of their, you know, career life. So I was kind of like teed up to become a founder at an early age.

Alejandro Cremades: So in your case, I mean, you started day quite early. You know, how how early are we talking about?

Kristian Ranta: Not that early, but I was like maybe, well, 25 when I kind of found in my first own company.

Alejandro Cremades: I mean, that’s a earlier than than most people, and because most people, you know they decide to do corporate you know for quite a bit. But then but anyhow, mean in your case, you know like the first rodeo you know ended up kind of like a two-step rodeo, which involved a spin-off, an exit, i mean all types of of war stories you know in there. So so tell us, what what what did you end up doing there with Mendor?

Kristian Ranta: Yeah, so my first company, uh, founded ah a glucose monitoring business with my co-founders. One of my co-founders back then, he’s a diabetic and an industrial designer. So he basically had an idea of like how to improve glucose monitoring for people. So we decided to find a medical device company straight out of school, which is kind of like kind of crazy, but we did it.

Kristian Ranta: And it was definitely not not an easy journey. It was like ah an extremely hard journey for us. um But it was also very rewarding. And there were a bunch of different phases and we eventually sold the business to a Korean company. And I actually just not too long ago, I met my co-founder back then and and I mean, um the He told me that he knows that like the the glucose monitor which is like spit like especially designed for people with type 1 diabetes, it was still in use in like 20 European countries. So it was pretty cool here that it’s, you know, even after it’s after the sale for like 10 years after it’s still like being sold and utilized around the world.

Kristian Ranta: um But a couple of things, I guess, I think one major learning from that company for me was like a learning on resilience and never giving up. Because there was basically a time when I was not ah not the CEO in Isha, I was like VP doing business and business development and stuff like that, and one of the co-founders. But I remember one meeting with the board, I was on the board as well. and um We had a board meeting and we had had a professional CEO, like a med tech executive, like someone who’d been like a Johnson & Johnson with like a billion dollars revenue budgets and stuff like that. We had hired someone like that to kind of take our product to market, but he was not able to raise money for the, for the business. Unfortunately, and we were at a plate with the board in a board meeting. I still remember it very vividly where one of the board members asks me and tells me like, Hey, you know, we all know here around the table that where you have like two weeks of of runaway, We’re out of cash like really soon. And first of all, we got to fire the CEO because like he’s not able to raise money. But you know, what do we want to do? Do we want to like, just fold the company? Or do we actually want to like do something? And then he just suddenly asks me, Hey, k Christian, would you be the CEO?

Kristian Ranta: And I’m like, damn it, like two weeks of runway. You gotta be kidding me. But I just instantly said yes, because I don’t know. Something in me just knew it, that like, okay, this is my chance to like, like kind of save the company and move forward. So I said yes. And again, I’m still thinking quite often about it, that it was completely crazy.

Kristian Ranta: But I did it and and in two weeks, those were by the way, the most stressful ah two weeks of my life ever. I was so stressed, but i I kind of like then started fundraising and I was able to, through my friends and connections in Finland, I was able to get to a business angel who’s like ah a wealthy business angel and and actually cold called him and he actually on the call decided to invest and eventually he invested half a million and then we got another half a million from a government fund.

Kristian Ranta: ah to kind of double that. And then we were up and running again. But it was it was a crazy, crazy two weeks of my life.

Alejandro Cremades: That’s incredible. So I guess, saying what was going in your mind you know there to avoid the stress getting you know to your head and and being able to deal with whatever is in front of you? Because the problem you know that I see a lot with founders is that when they’re dealing with a an event of this nature, you know they start going into the what ifs, and that just sucks up all the energy.

Alejandro Cremades: So how were you able to deal effectively with the fact that you needed to move fast and that you only had two weeks?

Kristian Ranta: Yeah.

Kristian Ranta: Yeah, that’s a really good point because I definitely do acknowledge and recognize that as well. And I’ve heard and you know heard it and seen it in in others as well. I think what I was able to do, like there’s a few things that are really, really important that I’ve learned as a founder. You’ve got to build stress management habits. You’ve got to take it seriously. And for me, it’s meditation, regular exercise, and sleeping enough.

Kristian Ranta: So these things are really important. And what I actually also discovered back then, which is something ah part of my routine nowadays as well, is that I actually, when I was raising for you know those two weeks, which are like extra stressful, I would actually, every morning I’d came to work id i’d come to work, I’d start doing like cold calling and like finding investors. And then by noon, I was so tired and so exhausted because of the stress and you know all that.

Kristian Ranta: that I actually was, I needed to take a walk and we had a forest right next to our office back then in Helsinki. And I would go on these forest walks for my entire lunch hour, just walk in the forest, clear my head and the forest bathing, forest energies is also very rejuvenating. And I was able to continue for the rest of the day again after that. So I think it’s like really important to just build those habits that are like kind of supporting your You know rejuvenation and like recovery and just like stress capabilities stress management capabilities

Alejandro Cremades: So with Mendor, basically ah you guys ended up doing a spinoff and then also there was an acquisition you know with ah with a Korean company. So tell us about those those um those sequence of events there.

Kristian Ranta: yeah basically but so what happened like I had been with the company like seven years full time at that point I’d been the ceo for five years roughly. and And we at that point, we were looking to raise like a larger round for quite some time. So building a medical device company is very capital intensive. And we were not really able to raise as much capital as we would have needed. And and you know, it was coming out of Finland back then. ah The ecosystem wasn’t, you know, it wasn’t just like very supportive in terms of like having like large funds, investing in like later stage medical device companies. We really struggled raising like a large round back then.

Kristian Ranta: ah We had already raised like 23 million, roughly 22 million euros back then. But we decided to then like find a buyer and we actually found um a buyer in in South Korea. So one of our partners, which is now it is a public company eventually like acquired the business. and And they’ve actually, you know, since then they’ve kept it on and they’ve been selling that product under their name. And and it’s it’s live and it’s out there in like, you know, around 20, 20 European countries still.

Alejandro Cremades: So then let’s talk about, the you know, turning a page here. So in the end, what was that moment where you realize, hey, you know, I think that maybe it’s time for for my next chapter. And obviously your next chapter, you know, was quite a ah successful one, you know, so far. so So how did the idea, you know, what you guys are up to now with mayoral health, you know, how did that come about?

Kristian Ranta: Yeah, yeah, I mean, like, well, I was, I was just in general, like I’m always been excited about healthcare and like building technology and in healthcare. So after I sold the first business, I was going to be in a place where I figured that like, I need to do, uh, do something else, or I need to like really think through like, what do I want to build?

Kristian Ranta: and then i spent like quite a few months just thinking through like kind of spending time just thinking about like what do i want to do and and i kind of like started getting some ideas and again i spent quite a lot of time in like meditation and just like leaving room for myself to really like get get the next idea and find the next thing that i i get it like that i would get really excited about So um yeah, I spent quite a lot of time. And then I was kind of talking to my co-founder, who had already worked with me at my last company. So we too, like my co-founder is called Rico. And with Rico, we decided to like, let’s found the next company together. So we started kind of spending some time on the exploration phase together. And then we started looking for a third co-founder, which we needed a like a tech co-founder. And we then found my third co-founder, Oliver, who um

Kristian Ranta: who was our buddy from the school, from university. And he was like a technical co-founder or a technical guy. And we eventually like, then I got the idea pretty much clarified with Rico and then we we kind of hired or like kind of recruited Albert as our third co-founder into the company and then founded the company in early 2016.

Alejandro Cremades: Obviously, you know one of the yeah reasons why you’re so driven you know when it comes to um to to the health you know segment, also to mental health, is a a tragedy that happened in the family. Is that right?

Kristian Ranta: Yeah, that’s true. That’s true. So I openly shared that I unfortunately, I lost my oldest brother Peter back in the days to to suicide because of his depression. And that kind of drove me from physical health to mental health. I really wanted to really wanted to like do something that could help people like my brother not end up like like him and like find different ways.

Kristian Ranta: like more holistic ways of healing because I had seen that this you know just medication or just the kind of things that are very common today were not really working for my brother and he was actually getting worse and that kind of drove me to start thinking about like what could be done in different ways and I’ve always been a biohacker or like a long long time I’ve been biohacking and kind of always exploring things with my own health and like how can I like thrive and you know again like this you know just building those kind of qualities in myself that could help me be a founder, could help me be successful, whatever.

Kristian Ranta: and I had realized that actually like mental health care, you know, is very, very important, but it’s very narrow focused in a way that there’s, we’re pretty much just doing therapy or we’re doing medication. And there’s no, no, like in a larger picture, there’s not a lot of like exercise or like dietary advice or sleep coaching, things like these, or even communities that are like really important actually for human flourishing and human wellbeing. And I took like a deep dive into these domains.

Kristian Ranta: before founding the company and i realized that this is an area where there’s like an untapped opportunity meaning that like more so um kind of becoming a lifestyle medicine company like an integrative company yeah and then targeting mental health. And that’s kind of how how I found the unique angle of kind of using technology to scale things, to measure things, to have the data, but also like bringing in these holistic aspects like exercise, sleep, diet, um you know, with therapy, with mindfulness to kind of create a very holistic and and a novel offering.

Alejandro Cremades: which is ultimately what you’re doing. no on mayorro health so So how do you guys make money?

Kristian Ranta: Yeah. So we sell to insurance. So, uh, we are, when we came to the U S to build the company, um, And basically here, health insurance is a major piece of the healthcare system. So we sell the health insurance. We are a provider, so we are a tech-enabled provider. So we employ doctors and and and coaches and therapists, but we’ve built our own technology, our own electronic medical record, our patient-facing app, like all that stuff, so that we can deliver care now nationwide for every you know in every zip code in the US.

Kristian Ranta: And we work with insurance like Cigna, Aetna, United Optum, Blue Cross Blue Shield plants that are like kind of paying for healthcare services in the US for a lot of a lot of people. and And that’s kind of like, you know, how we’ve been getting to the market. And those are like our B2B customers. And then we advertise and market to the consumers. So our business model is B2B2C model.

Alejandro Cremades: So why coming why coming to the US?

Kristian Ranta: Yeah. So we having built a couple of businesses in Europe and Asia, I basically, when I was founding Meryl Health with my co-founders, we thought about it like, okay, we’re we’re going to be going on this journey and we’re really going to want to build a really impactful company. We really want to make the best out of it. And how can we help a lot of people out there get access to much better mental health care in the future?

Kristian Ranta: And we figured that we were want wanting to build a global company eventually. And we want to take the company public at and at one point, at some point in the future, to really build like a long lasting health care company. And then we figured that like what’s the best place to do that? like What’s the most likely place on earth to be able to do that? And it became very clear that it’s either Boston or it’s Silicon Valley. And and you know we had a longstanding dream also to kind of build in the valley. And that’s why we decided to kind of just figure out the visas and whatever and and move here.

Kristian Ranta: And that’s basically then how, you know, personally, I kind of started spending most of my time in the US 2017, got my visa sorted out. And then, you know, then that’s kind of how how how we ended up in the US. And it’s been a wonderful journey. I mean, like, the US healthcare care system, healthcare market is 50% of the global healthcare market just in a single country.

Alejandro Cremades: That’s unbelievable. Now, what’s also unbelievable is the fact that you guys applied six times to Y Combinator. That sounds crazy.

Kristian Ranta: Yeah, so totally. It was pretty crazy. So we we came from Finland. We had like absolutely no connections in the US, maybe like a cousin’s cousin or something, but that’s it. you know we knew We knew no one, and we were kind of completely on our own. And we figured that there’s got to be a hack. There’s got to be a way for us to gain credibility and to become you know ah become a company and and a group of founders that starts to be more interesting in the market.

Kristian Ranta: And I had talked to quite a few VCs in in the Valley and they were kind of like saying that, hey guys, like this is nice, but you guys are like, you know, 13th company in a dozen in a way. and And you guys are like coming from Finland and like you guys have no idea about the US healthcare care system. Like how could you fix it if we can’t even fix it?

Kristian Ranta: And you’re coming from Finland.” We were like, no, no, no, but we have some great ideas. And they’re like, poof, door shut. Like, OK, damn it. So we figured that we’ve got to hack this somehow. And we we started applying to YC. And you know initially, three first times, we didn’t even get and get into an interview.

Kristian Ranta: ah But then, so we did we were persistent. We knew that like we got to be able to get in there. We got to show progress. We got to just like keep on moving, get the first customers, you know start working with universities. We got into Stanford University, started a research collaboration with them in 2017. We started getting traction. We started getting like meeting milestones. and And we had raised some appreciate money from some of my old investors in out of Finland.

Kristian Ranta: And then we basically started getting into the interview. So the fourth and the fifth time to apply to YC, we we got got interviewed or invited to the interview. And and the partners, they were basically like also like telling us, like hey, great idea, but like no way. And then like we just kept on going. and And on the sixth try, we had shown a lot of progress during those like you know two to three years, well, three years, roughly.

Kristian Ranta: and And then, you know, they just ah eventually decided to accept our application and we got into YC in 2018. And yeah, it was it was fantastic because I i mean, we were at times pretty desperate, but we still figured that like we got to keep on going because there is always going to be a chance like we we were making progress. We knew that they’re going to be they’re going to be eventually interested in us.

Alejandro Cremades: Was a white combinator worth the hype?

Kristian Ranta: For us, absolutely. I mean, like we had no, no chance in getting like a foothold in the US. It was really hard for, you know, even be attractive to VCs in the early days so coming from Finland and having no context or background here. So it was really important. Like we immediately were able to raise our series seed after YC in couple of tranches. So we got, got like after demo day, we got like quite a lot of investors interested. We raised money.

Kristian Ranta: a few million um and then you know we’ve been able to hire like some fantastic people out of yc out of their networks and you know the the alumni network is very very active and supportive so i’ve met like so many other founders through at the alumni network and that’s been invaluable for us um so i think at least as ah as a first time founder in the us it was super valuable

Alejandro Cremades: How much capital have you guys say raised to date? And what has been, obviously, the journey you are alluding to it you know with coming out of white community, or how that gave you guys a push? But what has been the journey of raising all the money?

Kristian Ranta: Yeah, so we we’ve raised like around $50 million dollars so far, our latest round being our Series B. um so yeah it’s After YC, we were able to raise our seed round. We had some pre-seed money from Finland, from a couple of tech investors that had to invested in my last businesses.

Kristian Ranta: But then we managed to raise our series seed once we got through YC. That helped us tremendously to get traction in in the Valley with local investors. And then then we basically started growing. We started getting into the first insurance company deals. We got some first employer customers. And then pretty quickly we raised our series A. That was from Brad Feld from the Foundry Group.

Kristian Ranta: out of Colorado. So that was great. He’s been extremely helpful and just very, very thankful for his support. So he was our Series A lead, and then we raised our Series B from Industry Ventures, um who are a San Francisco, a kind of a global later stage healthcare, healthcare investor.

Alejandro Cremades: so Obviously, you know when you get investment, you know and you get folks to um bet on you, they’re betting on a vision, you know just like employees or customers would. To that, thing you know um I would say angle or or or or or or kind of like thinking, if you were to go to sleep tonight, Christian, and you wake up in a world where the vision of mayoral health is fully realized, what does that world look like?

Kristian Ranta: Wow, I appreciate that. So I think what it would mean is that actually we would treat mental health problems in much, much more kind of no holistic ways. And what it would mean is that we would actually be able to get people to completely heal from their mental health problems, which we’ve seen in our populations when you actually apply more holistic treatments. Meaning that like it’s not just about you know therapy. Therapy is great and important, but it’s just one tool in a toolbox.

Kristian Ranta: And there are other reasons like, just to give you a very concrete example, that like there are known vitamin deficiencies like B12, B9, B6, vitamin D that actually can cause clinical mental illness. But normal, the mental health system today isn’t doing anything to check on those deficiencies as an example. like They’re not checking your diet. They’re not checking like whether you have like taking blood tests to look at deficiencies, things like these. And there’s no amount of talking that will fix your B12 deficiency. Or ah antidepressants won’t fix your vitamin D deficiency. But these are yet these are really common. like These deficiencies and these issues with like nutrients and diets are very, very common, especially in America.

Kristian Ranta: um So that’s kind of like to kind of paint your a picture that a much, much more holistic model is needed to to get to a ah better world for everyone who was who struggling with mental health problems.

Alejandro Cremades: So they say that there’s nothing like being able to get the timing right, being at the right time in history when you’re building a company. know And it sounds like mental health, you know, years ago, nobody really would talk about it, but now it’s like the consciousness around it. It’s just like unbelievable. So how do you think that the that timing, you know, has also helped you guys to be able to achieve the growth and the and the execution that you guys are are getting on this?

Kristian Ranta: Yeah, I think it’s been critically important. I think, like you said, timing is super important. So in this in this space, mental health kind of exploded in 2019, 2020 with the pandemic, all the kind of telehealth, all the remote therapy, all that stuff exploded. And it helped us tremendously to get started. I think it would have been like very much slower ah to be able to build this unless we had kind of hit that point, that affliction point.

Kristian Ranta: So yeah, I think timing is is really important. So it would have been a ah lot, lot harder journey had we not seen that kind of explosion in in in mental health care.

Alejandro Cremades: so Now, we we were talking about the the future earlier. I want to talk about the past, but doing so with a lens of reflection. If I was to put you back into a time machine and I bring you back in time, okay i bring you back in time, you know, maybe to 2006, when you were thinking about doing something of your own, and let’s say you were able to show up you know right there on the spot,

Alejandro Cremades: and be able to give that younger Christian one piece of advice before launching a company. What will that be and why, given what you know now?

Kristian Ranta: yeah Yeah, I love that. I think the most important single learning that I have learned over my three businesses or over my time has been that like when you’re building a company, you have to set the values and the culture first.

Kristian Ranta: like That has to come first, because that’s how you then are able to hire the right people who resonate at the same frequency, so to say, and who are like really aligned with what you’re building and how you’re building things. like Why do you come to work every day? Why do you persist through challenges? And how do you work together? like How do you treat other people, your colleagues, your customers?

Kristian Ranta: And these things are really, really important. And unless you have a clear like kind of guidance from the beginning, like clear set of values and traits, like how do we work? What do we value in this culture? You’re not going to create a cohesive culture. you’re going to create a There’s always culture. like Culture is always, you know there’s a vacuum. It gets filled with whatever. And cultures are always some some kinds of cultures. But if you really think about it, culture is the most important thing in a company. And you’ve got to design your culture.

Kristian Ranta: So I would advocate for for myself back then, and every founder that I’ve seen, or you know who has asked me this question, that like, design your culture carefully. Think about the values, think about the traits, think about how you work together, how you treat each other, and how you treat your customers. Because that’s eventually like going to be your number one like spinal cord as you grow the company and how it will operate.

Kristian Ranta: So I think that’s that was a huge learning, which I did not know when I was building my first businesses. And my cultures back then were pretty like chaotic and crazy. They weren’t like aligned on and like cohesive. So I think that’s really, really important.

Alejandro Cremades: So I guess saying when it comes to culture too, you know, and and now you guys have like about 140 employees. What would you say were the fundamental building blocks of mayoral health when it came to culture?

Kristian Ranta: Yeah. So we, that’s, yeah, that’s a good question. So we first, actually, before even we founded the company, me and my co-founders, we sat down and we had a value workshop. So where we kind of talked about like, why would we want to embark on this journey? It’s going to be like 10 to 15 year or whatever. It takes a long time to build healthcare care companies. And, and, you know, we kind of.

Kristian Ranta: spent quite a lot of like full day on like thinking about why why do I want to, like why do we as individuals, as founders, why do we want to do this? like What excites us? What’s the drive in us? And we all shared our challenges with like mental health in our families and had like similar and similar kinds of stories. And we all figured that we want to really build something that and is making a difference in this space. And then we also talked a lot about like how do we want to build. like We want to build with transparency. We want to build with like customers first, we want to be like very resourceful. So a lot of these things that ah that we went through in that that session, and we then kind of wrote them down as our culture and our traits and our values. and And one thing that I want to point out, a very important single piece, that we had all been

Kristian Ranta: in like high agency cultures before we had been at consulting firms and like startups and all sorts of places where there’s a lot of smart people working really hard. And what we had learned also was that like very often people forget that it’s important to also be compassionate and friendly and kind to each other. And we actually wanted to build mental health as ah as a high performance culture, but also as a culture of kindness to towards each other.

Kristian Ranta: Because we have learned that if you’re like really high performance and you’re also able to be kind and compassionate towards your colleagues, you’re actually going to be even more impactful as a team. And and everyone wants to work in a kind environment. Even if it’s like a high performance, like really chaotic or a challenging environment, even more so, you want to work in a kind environment where other people respect you and treat you kindly. So we actually set one of our as one of our values to be compassion.

Kristian Ranta: And that was like from the get-go has been also like kind of a beacon that has also attracted a lot of other people to us when we’ve hired people and when people are looking at our values. um So yeah, it’s been it’s been very important to define the culture, to define the values, and then very clearly letting it like kind of beacon out to the world so that the right people can find us when you’re hiring, when you’re looking for first customers, so forth, so forth.

Alejandro Cremades: I love it. So, Christian, for the people that are listening that would love to reach out and say hi, what is the best way for them to do so?

Kristian Ranta: Yeah, so merrellhealth.com is is the website. And then christian at merrellhealth.com is my email. So yeah, feel feel free to drop drop a line, please. And also I’m on LinkedIn as well. And happy to always try to be helpful.

Alejandro Cremades: Amazing. Well, easy novel, Christian. Thank you so much for being on the Deal Maker Show today. It has been an absolute honor to have you with us.

Kristian Ranta: Thanks, Alejandro. I really appreciate it. Thanks for having me today.

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